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Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:09 pm
by inlandpatch
cvrules90 wrote:
N6AJB wrote:After the political nightmare that ensued by thousands of people listening to the internet feed who were not familiar with their lingo assuming they meant to torch Christopher Dorner by referencing "burners" I believe they are pushing encryption pretty hard. Not to mention the likelihood that Dorner may have been listening to the feed as well.
Given what happened in Pasadena, they might lighten on the encryption. Like I said, so far no law enforcement talkgroups are.
what happened with Pasadena? their entire police freq are encrypted now.... :?:

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:00 pm
by CQPSK
"what happened with Pasadena? their entire police freq are encrypted now.."

Not exactly. Pasadena has two pedals for TX at their dispatch consoles and two talk groups assigned for broadcasts. One pedal is for clear TX and the other is for secure TX. When a "non-critical" incident is dispatched, BOTH pedals are activated so the initial broadcast goes out over both the clear and encrypted talk groups so the media and casual listeners can hear the initial call. The officer's traffic is 100% encrypted on the secure talk group for responses to dispatch as well as most "follow on" dispatch traffic relative to the incident, but most calls are initially broadcast in the clear.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:44 am
by sp1989
That would be useful for law abiding people that live in RSO's patrol areas. Many is the time when I lived in Riverside and the ghetto bird was right over my house that a scanner came in handy to find out what is going on. Parolees jumping fences to get away were a common occurrence, helps to have a description.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:17 pm
by cvrules90
CQPSK wrote:"what happened with Pasadena? their entire police freq are encrypted now.."

Not exactly. Pasadena has two pedals for TX at their dispatch consoles and two talk groups assigned for broadcasts. One pedal is for clear TX and the other is for secure TX. When a "non-critical" incident is dispatched, BOTH pedals are activated so the initial broadcast goes out over both the clear and encrypted talk groups so the media and casual listeners can hear the initial call. The officer's traffic is 100% encrypted on the secure talk group for responses to dispatch as well as most "follow on" dispatch traffic relative to the incident, but most calls are initially broadcast in the clear.
So Pasadena is on the Motorola or the P-25 ICIS system? I see it listed under both and I see they still have their VHF frequencies listed where one is analog and the other encrypted.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:43 pm
by CQPSK
Yes, Pasadena is on the P25 ICIS system.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:01 am
by cvrules90
I didn't know that was how their system worked.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:25 am
by sp1989
Anyone know if ICIS is encrypted? I tried to program Pomona, but nothing happens but some weird sounds once in a while.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:44 pm
by CQPSK
Pomona Blue (primary dispatch) is in the clear, all the other channels are encrypted for Pomona. The Pomona cell as just updated to P25 trunking (From ASTRO trunking) about a year ago.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:49 pm
by cvrules90
I see Beverly Hills has clear talkgroups. Some PDs have clear dispatch channels, and encrypted secondary channels (records, car/car etc...). There are also some clear CHP patches on there.

Re: San Bernardino County P25 Upgrade Plans

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:19 pm
by Brian
Some quick updated San Bernardino P25 Pro96Com logs.
Just showing the Site Neighbors Info, and latest site information.
__________________________________________________________________
FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 37C
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-3
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Oct 31 12:13:05 2014

Site NAC: 373

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1332","a",770.33125,"01-1332",800.33125,0,0
"01-1692","c",772.58125,"01-1692",802.58125,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
107,"T0107",37c,"01-1642",772.26875,""
108,"T0108",37c,"01-1562",771.76875,""
110,"T010A",37c,"00-2863",868.90000,""
111,"T010B",37c,"00-1533",860.58750,""
113,"T010D",37c,"01-1600",772.00625,""

__________________________________________________________________
FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 37C
System Name :
WACN : 00000
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-7
Tower Number (Hex) : T0107
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Oct 31 12:12:00 2014

Site NAC: 377

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1602","a",772.01875,"01-1602",802.01875,0,0
"01-1642","c",772.26875,"01-1642",802.26875,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
103,"T0103",37c,"01-1692",772.58125,""
108,"T0108",37c,"01-1562",771.76875,""

__________________________________________________________________
FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 37C
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-8
Tower Number (Hex) : T0108
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Oct 31 12:40:28 2014

Site NAC: 378

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1498","a",771.36875,"01-1498",801.36875,0,0
"01-1562","c",771.76875,"01-1562",801.76875,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
103,"T0103",37c,"01-1692",772.58125,""
107,"T0107",37c,"01-1642",772.26875,""
111,"T010B",37c,"00-1533",860.58750,""

__________________________________________________________________
FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 37C
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-13
Tower Number (Hex) : T010D
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Oct 31 11:47:12 2014

Site NAC: 37D

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1560","a",771.75625,"01-1560",801.75625,0,0
"01-1600","c",772.00625,"01-1600",772.00625,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
102,"T0102",37c,"01-1412",770.83125,""
103,"T0103",37c,"01-1692",772.58125,""
104,"T0104",37c,"01-1536",771.60625,""
105,"T0105",37c,"01-1732",772.83125,""
106,"T0106",37c,"00-0105",851.66250,""
110,"T010A",37c,"00-2863",868.90000,""
112,"T010C",37c,"00-2821",868.63750,""