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Re: PSEC scanner question

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 am
by CQPSK
Encryption is strapped per talkgroup and the users have no way to select secure or clear. The equipment is capable of user selectable secure clear but that feature is not enable. Secure / clear can be selected for on the dispatcher's side via the console (which only selects whether console audio being sent is secure or clear..it won't effect user transmissions.). The problem with user selectable secure / clear is that users are unaware that they are clear when theĀ„ think they are secure, or unaware they are secure when they should be clear since any radio that has the proper key will pass cleartext audio regardless of whether it's in secure or clear mode.

Re: PSEC scanner question

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:45 pm
by cvrules90
CQPSK wrote:Encryption is strapped per talkgroup and the users have no way to select secure or clear. The equipment is capable of user selectable secure clear but that feature is not enable. Secure / clear can be selected for on the dispatcher's side via the console (which only selects whether console audio being sent is secure or clear..it won't effect user transmissions.). The problem with user selectable secure / clear is that users are unaware that they are clear when theĀ„ think they are secure, or unaware they are secure when they should be clear since any radio that has the proper key will pass cleartext audio regardless of whether it's in secure or clear mode.
So it's one-sided. If dispatch makes themselves clear, then only they are clear and not the deputies.

Re: PSEC scanner question

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:46 pm
by inlandpatch
interesting...... too bad dispatch wont switch it so at least we can just hear 1/2 the transmissions or calls that are going out! i noticed when i was in Santa Monica there dispatch was like that, I could only hear dispatch in the clear and the officers were enc, i wonder if someone accidentally pressed that button or if its intentional. but thanks for that information really helped me understand how it works!!

Re: PSEC scanner question

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:42 pm
by CQPSK
The problem however, is that "clear dispatch" is what the bad guys are listening for as they are burglarizing a building or robbing a bank. "Ut-oh, here they come...let's set an ambush and take them out or we can run".

Re: PSEC scanner question

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:50 pm
by inlandpatch
CQPSK wrote:The problem however, is that "clear dispatch" is what the bad guys are listening for as they are burglarizing a building or robbing a bank. "Ut-oh, here they come...let's set an ambush and take them out or we can run".
o ya for sure, i know they are! it doesn't help with the steaming online i belive thats why a lot of agencies are going enc. but i completely understand why they go enc and i would rather they go enc to keep our officers safe, thats always my number one.

Re: PSEC scanner question

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:23 pm
by cvrules90
CQPSK wrote:The problem however, is that "clear dispatch" is what the bad guys are listening for as they are burglarizing a building or robbing a bank. "Ut-oh, here they come...let's set an ambush and take them out or we can run".
The problem is, police cars come rolling with their lights and sirens on and the general public has no idea what was up until they sit by the TV set watching the evening news.